Interesting BASIC site
#1
Found an interestiing BASIC site:

http://www.allbasic.info/forum/index.php

Erik.
dndbbs project:

Links to my MUD: (strictly 16-bit); AKA XP:

Dndbbs executables
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1e.zip

Dndbbs source
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1s.zip

Dndbbs upgrade
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1u.zip

DNDDOOR - https://bit.ly/EriksDNDDoor DUNGEON - https://bit.ly/EriksDungeon
Interpreter - https://bit.ly/EriksSICK Hex Editor - https://bit.ly/EriksHexEditor Utilities - https://bit.ly/EriksUtils
QB45 files: - https://bit.ly/EriksQB45 QB64shell - https://bit.ly/QB64shell Some old QB64 versions: - https://bit.ly/OldQB64
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#2
Hi Erik,

Another site you might like:
http://retrogamecoding.org/board/index.php



Cybermonkey, who has posted here, is the administrator of the site. The board in screen shot was added when BP.org was discontinued as a sort of replacement for those BASIC fans that are still around.

If you sign as member, don't hold your breath waiting for approval. But if too long you might try PMing Cybermonkey here?
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#3
Oh hey! If you are into Zen meditation try this site:
http://www.network54.com/Index/10167
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#4
That's what I'd call one all white supremacist site! Are you sure it isn't http://kkk.network54.com?

Tapatalk never did redirect the urls to people's old network54 addresses.

Tapatalk finally did get the 10 forums they failed to migrate in the initial beta trial up, but there are some weird data errors that I need to look into when I have time. After the first of the month, I'm going to see if they are willing to look into some of the remaining issues.

Pete Big Grin
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#5
I love staring at blank screens all day!

Hey let's wait until something happens..

Oh, right-click and display page source -- heh, it's empty!?

Argh.
dndbbs project:

Links to my MUD: (strictly 16-bit); AKA XP:

Dndbbs executables
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1e.zip

Dndbbs source
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1s.zip

Dndbbs upgrade
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1u.zip

DNDDOOR - https://bit.ly/EriksDNDDoor DUNGEON - https://bit.ly/EriksDungeon
Interpreter - https://bit.ly/EriksSICK Hex Editor - https://bit.ly/EriksHexEditor Utilities - https://bit.ly/EriksUtils
QB45 files: - https://bit.ly/EriksQB45 QB64shell - https://bit.ly/QB64shell Some old QB64 versions: - https://bit.ly/OldQB64
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#6
@bplus: looked at: Retrogamecoding and Basicprogramming Forum, and I'm not sure it has any
topics I would invest uploading code to..

Erik.

btw: i tried to register but when it said "the first 4 digits of PI" and i answered 3141 and 1415 it failed.
dndbbs project:

Links to my MUD: (strictly 16-bit); AKA XP:

Dndbbs executables
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1e.zip

Dndbbs source
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1s.zip

Dndbbs upgrade
http://www.filegate.net/pdn/pdnbasic/dnd50a1u.zip

DNDDOOR - https://bit.ly/EriksDNDDoor DUNGEON - https://bit.ly/EriksDungeon
Interpreter - https://bit.ly/EriksSICK Hex Editor - https://bit.ly/EriksHexEditor Utilities - https://bit.ly/EriksUtils
QB45 files: - https://bit.ly/EriksQB45 QB64shell - https://bit.ly/QB64shell Some old QB64 versions: - https://bit.ly/OldQB64
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#7
AllBasic is John Spikowski site about Script basic
and we all know who is John...right?
Another thing RetroBasic forum is almost dead like many other sites...
Investing to posting here ...hmmm for who
I dont see very much interest or enthusisam here...
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#8
@Aurel,

Quote:I dont see very much interest or enthusisam here...

This apparently happens at every forum at some point, but I can tell you why it is happening here.

While I am not trying to bring up old arguments, nor do I want to get into anymore, I have been saying for years now that QB64 is dying. There are many reasons I made that assumption, so it is not based on one idea alone. First, Galleon has shown time-after-time that he has lost interest in the project. Now the QB64's main website is nearly dead and Galleon has done nothing to fix it, especially after all the emails I heard that Fellippe had sent to him. second, while QB64 is a great programming language for nostalgic reasons, it is so far outdated and has many issues. I have seen many great BASIC programming languages come and go over the years that were far superior to QB64, especially in the graphics, so in my opinion, nostalgia is the main reason most users use it. What are those other superior languages I hinted around about? Well, they are, BlitzBASIC, BlitzPRO, Blitz3D, Monkey X, DarkBASIC, and the list goes on-and-on as there were hundreds upon hundreds of them.

The QB64 project itself would be dead if it wasn't for people like Fellippe, Luke, Steve McNeil, and STxAxTIC, who are trying to keep going. But, one would have to ask themselves, how much longer will they be interested in keeping the project alive? Fellippe has a new family, Luke is still in school, Steve messes with it when he feels like it, and STxAxTIC... Well... I'm not sure what he does anymore since I haven't spoken with him in a while.

Look at all the other BASIC languages that are still around, like FreeBASIC and SmallBASIC, and think about how their popularity has declined in the recent years. My own passion for QB64 has died for many reasons, which is why I won't touch the internals any more. It's still a cool little tool for me to tinker with from time to time, but it is time for me to run with the big dawgs now, so I walked away from it for the most part.

I have been saying for years that QB64 needs to be rewritten from scratch, but nobody has wanted to take on that task, though I wanted to at one time. I have cleaned up QB64's source code so many times over the years, as well as reorganized the file/directory structure, to only delete them all out of anger. At this point, I don't want to have anything else to do with the internals of QB64. Besides, I find C++ ver 17 way more rewarding then QB64, and now with learning SFML, I have all the programming tools I need for the time being.

Quote:Investing to posting here ...hmmm for who

I have asked that same question, which is why I am creating a new site just for projects.
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#9
Admin,

I think you should have sent your response to Aurel in a PM.

After I had finished reading that I felt SO discouraged...

"QB64 is dying"
"it is so far outdated and has many issues"
"far superior to QB64"
"how much longer will they be interested in keeping the project alive?"
"My own passion for QB64 has died for many reasons"
"it is time for me to run with the big dawgs now"
"more rewarding then QB64"

So, the impression that "I" am getting is, the funeral for QB64 is all but over except for filling in the grave and sending the mourners home.

I would have and should have expected the Administrator to help inspire the members to continue. Sure, all things must end, but QB64 still has a pulse. It sounds like you are giving up!

THIS mourner is going home. Kindly delete my account. There is no more joy here...
May your journey be free of incident.

Live long and prosper.
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#10
@Johnno56,

Quote:I would have and should have expected the Administrator to help inspire the members to continue.

You are absolutely correct on that point, but I can't inspire people when I no longer have an inspiration or passion for a project. At this point, I see QB64 as another dying programming language as many great ones before it.

Quote:Sure, all things must end, but QB64 still has a pulse.

QB64 has a faint pulse, and is on life support at the moment thanks to Fellippe and Luke, as well as a small handful of passionate users. But Galleon has walked away from the project for the most part, which he had stated many times on QB64.net, and he has added many nails to the coffin by not making sure his site stays operational. This isn't the first programming language that I have invested a lot of time into, or money, just to watch it disappear. But that appears to be the life of programming languages now days.

After studying the history of many programming languages, I've come to realize that now days, they are just a dime-a-dozen, even though most are and were great, like QB64. We have to pick the the tools we want to use for the current projects we want to create, so we have to weigh the pro's and con's of each to find the best ones. If we focus on just one programming tool (or any other tool in any industry), then we limit ourselves in what we can accomplish. For me, I can no longer focus on nostalgia as I did before when I started playing around with QB64, which is one small reason why I can't share passion for the language anymore. I have to focus on projects that will later turn into money.

Quote:It sounds like you are giving up!

I gave up on QB64 a long time ago. I wanted to walk away from the project after the community over at QB64.net started lashing out to me for sharing with them how to add your own commands. I spent two weeks learning the internals of QB64 so I could help make the langauge better. It got ugly, and I nearly walked away then. But then one day, I got bored and decided to see where it would go if I stayed around. In other words, I am here at this point all for the sake of curiosity, and that is it, nothing more. Later, I attempted to work on making QB64 better by cleaning up, fixing, and restructuring the internal code, but there were some people who decided to kill my passion and enthusasimfor the project, over-and-over again. So yeah, I had given up.

This site was suppose to be around long enough until Galleon got his site working again back in 2014, which only took two weeks, but I was curious where it would go if I left it up. Plus, I had a few members from QB64.net who wanted an alternative place to go where there was so much drama. So I pay money every month to keep this site going.

Quote:There is no more joy here...

Sadly, I have known this for a long time. When I first realized the joy of this place had died, I started adding places for other programming languages.

Quote:So, the impression that "I" am getting is, the funeral for QB64 is all but over except for filling in the grave and sending the mourners home.

No, we haven't had a funernal for QB64 just yet, and won't as long as we have people like Fellippe, Luke, STxAxTIC, and others to keep it on life support. However, for me, I am no longer passionate about the project, nor do I think much about it anymore. To be honest, while QB64 is a great programming tool, it really needs to be rewritten from scratch. Until then, the only things the QB64 Team can do is patch it up, just to keep it around for nostalgia.

At this point, my main focus is on using C++ ver 17 to create projects that I can sell to make a living on. I will still share my findings here on this forum, but as for other programming languages, I just don't have the time, or the desire to "play around" with them for fun. I am 46 years old and I want to start making a decent living from the house. I'm tired of working for other people and not making my potential in pay. My wife is in bad health, which has caused a world of financial trouble for us, and she no longer works. If it wasn't for the disability check she gets every month, we would be in an extremely bad place, or worse.

So, yes, I have to focus on making money from home so I can be with her more, if she makes it that long. I personally am going through a lot of depression, which makes it hard for me to focus, so I am striving extra hard to come up with ways to accomplish my goals. Due to this, QB64 is relatively dead to me, as is other BASIC languages, but I will continue to maintain this site, even if I have to revamp it again.
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